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Thursday, April 2, 2009

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For all of the awesome overcomers here starting... stepping... sharing... hoping...everyday!

CI Do ti now

Finsih taxes TTC and NYS

Finsih books (sattrted today!!)

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CI DOTNOW

Finished thing with Doug (0r close) PNP

finsihed ny and Fed taxes - mailed bith 

stepping stones

After I released my bag of "stumbling blocks" here today, I was able to pick up HP's "stepping stones" set them down and walk accross the stream.

The stepping stones made me feel as if I was walking on water.

It's really neat to be able to unload ................ of the day/moment.

I had a pretty good day after all, after I got out of my head. I once heard someone say "When I'm in my head, I'm in enemy territory." That's me.

I don't know if there is more to this program than posting, but for now, I am grateful.

Thank you.

thanks vic

Hi Vic - your post really helped me wake up and get out of my head tonight! And your description of stumbling blocks and stepping stones is so beautiful to read. Thanks for sharing and so glad you are here! :-)

This is a great site - I don't know how many posts you have read - its taken me a little while to see how it works and what works for me - here are some links you may have missed that I wrote replies to you and also a few intro posts that explain how I use the site - you will find the way that best helps you, just  jumping in and posting is a great start! There are so many here who can offer wisdom and support and insight!

reply yesterday http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/2026#comment-29732

http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/2018#comment-29556 (about how I use the site - and just ask questions as you think of them, there is a lot i am still learning on the easiest way to do things here)

"Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails."

posted on fri

Smile

I need to resync myself for

I need to resync myself for my interview with my professor right now.  I need to totally submit it up to HP's will and everything right now. 

 

This is very scary for me because I'm about to discuss completing work for a class for which I was not all that mentally persent for because of being unable to do thew ork, because of work, and now that I have the time, it's a bit daunting not knowing what is expected or being scared about going about it.  In any case, I know that I must proceed and that is all I can do .  I am very scared and very afraid.  But I'm going to work on my essay for the next half hour, and then show up at his office.

good luck Fudo Shin

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

ditto!

Hi!

Yes, Fingers crossed here!

Recycler


Recycler

Thank you, gals & guys, for being here! :)

Recycler CI 4:40pm EST

Hi Pro Buddies!

It's the end of the workday here. I've done ok on my list for today.

Tonight: I have to talk to someone scary about something scary. I will try to update my CI later tonight if I am ok. Or if I am overwhelmed, I will CI tomorrow.

9:25pm. It went ok. Whew!

There may still be more shoes dropping from time to time, but this was the major thing I was worried about.

Afterward I was so relieved, I took some time for just writing happy emails to friends. That is a lot better than the crying I thought I was going to be doing! Anyway, I need to get ready to sleep now.

Have a great night, everyone! :)

Recycler


Recycler

Thank you, gals & guys, for being here! :)

isabo ci 429pm

haven't moved yet.  Now is a crunch time to find supper - take out? no,  bought frozen fish today, fries in freezer, peas in cupboard.  Need to go unload dishwasher and load it, and clean counters before hubby comes hope.   This isn't familiar, is it?  ....

Nothing is worth more than this day  - Goethe

isabo ci 318pm

well, had a pretty good day.  BUT I spent money instead of, well, not.  I did have to return a pair of pants that I bought yesterday, when my daughter and I went shopping instead of going home after her hair appt.  And I did have to buy a gift for one of my son's classmates for her birthday party he's going to.  That should have netted me 13$ to my wallet, instead I shopped and spent $'s in the mall, then went to the grocery store and spent more.  I really need to cut my debit card up - no freeze it inbetween payday, then only take out the 2 weeks monies.  I do need to do something.  Maybe I should procrastinate some more and look on the net for help for that.  Catch 22.

I did go for a walk with my daughter and our bigger dog.  I rebooted the laundry, and seperated the clean clothes into piles.  Put the bought stuff away. 

The rest of the day I want to: get supper out, unload the dishwasher, fill it back up, start supper, make a desert. 

Not much, but I want to do this instead of go into a time warp and play games or surf the net.... 

Nothing is worth more than this day  - Goethe

Agnus ci 1:35

Had morning routine, lots of prayer, appt at church with J, found and left msg for a therapist to evaluate my brain (my sister the teacher thinks I have ADD), registered for online brain-exercises, checked emails, did a little work, and been on PA now for almost an hour. Need to move along now...

  • feed pets (forgot the poor beasties this morning!)
  • eat lunch
  • haircut appt 2:30
  • work for 2 hours (truncated to 1 hour due to hairdresser running behind)
  • chiro 5:30
  • AA meeting 6:30
  • class conference call 7:30 (eat dinner during)
  • pray to resist temptation to get back on computer, which experience tells me will lead me to work-bingeing tonight (need to self-punish after yesterday's screw-up); maybe read a book in bed and fall asleep at reasonable hour...

Agnus hurts but no longer despairing

Thanks for everyone's hugs late yesterday. Last night I wasn't sure whether to consume one of my drugs of choice, or cyanide. Thank God I did neither. But the despair was horrible. If not for prayerful friends and God, I would not be here today.

My appeal was declined: "Late is late" was the answer.  I still have to tell my boss today - I placed the call but have not received a reply. I am praying that God will save my colleagues and their families from bad consequences of my failure. For me, I'll take what comes. 

Also, this has forced me to seek outside help. The 12 Steps and the fellowship here and in other programs is a great help - lifesaving, I am definitely improved since being in PA. But one aspect of my problem is getting worse: concentration and transition. I'm told this is an actual brain disorder and there is treatment, but I always thought I was managing it OK.  Now however, I think aging, injury and stress have robbed my ability to compensate. Step 7 guides me to humbly admit I need professional help with this one, so I'm awaiting a callback now. Also signed up for a brain-exercise website but I forget the link; I'll post it later if it proves useful.

sending hugs to Agnus!

Hi Agnus!

(((gentle hugs)))

Recycler


Recycler

Thank you, gals & guys, for being here! :)

prayer, hug4 agnus

Praying for you agnus so glad you are taking steps and seeking God - he is answering. Sending you the biggest hug and praying for answer and hope to come to you.  God loves you - we love you.

" Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails."

pray4 ag

so i am glad god was with you last night. He is intervening in this situation then already. I pray that it may work together for good for you, somehow, sometime.

Agnus, any of us could have been there. it's just circumstances. I'm late so many times, but just w/o the consequences.

We all here are with you thru this. I tell myself in these times, "seek god, not an exit." Hope that helps.

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the touch of the master's hand: http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/1898#comment-27748

"fall down seven times, get up eight" - japanese proverb

RE: "Late is Late"

Hugs to Agnus!

May we all find healing from compulsive procrastination.

-- movingalong

re "late is late"

Oh, that seems unfair!   7 minutes!

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

Hazelden Thought for the Day Thursday

Thursday, April 2, 2009

You are reading from the book Each Day a New Beginning

Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace.
--Amelia Earhart

We have learned from experience that a wave of peacefulness washes over us after we have successfully finished a task that was difficult to face. Courage has its reward. However, from time to time, and from task to task, we find we need the reminder that peace will come once the loose ends have been tied by us.

Our search for peace was desperate and unending in past years. Our fears overwhelmed us more often than not. Courage was seldom displayed. Tasks were often left half done or not done at all. Challenges went unmet. And peace eluded us.

We are so lucky that the program found us, and that we found the program! We are looking forward, at last, with the courage that trusting a higher power has given us. Peace is ours, now and always, as we go forth with the strength of the program to bolster us. New jobs, new friends, new situations may still elicit our old fears. But their hold on us is gone. We have learned that we face nothing alone. What relief that simple truth brings.

Courage is one of the program's gifts. I will have courage to go forward: to meet the new day, to handle whatever confronts me. Peace is coupled with courage, now and forever.

From Each Day a New Beginning: Daily Meditations for Women by Karen Casey © 1982, 1991 by Hazelden Foundation. All rights reserved. Published 1982. Second edition 1991.  

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

byGodsGrace todays CI

This is what God has been dealing with me about this week - I am fixer, a thinker, a figure it outer! Funny to say as I am also an avoider! BUT - this week, my circumstances are so overwhelming while at the same time my obligations are so pressing - that I had to reach a new level of surrender - and I am so glad i did! Similar to Clements quote about feeling more guilty, get less done, less guilty get more done - IF i focus on myself, my faults, my weakness, my problems and obstacles I can't fix or control - then I will get less, and likely NOTHING done (or wait until the end and a mad rush or frenzy to finish halfway)

So I am making myself submit - I am looking at it as a fight and I'm getting MAD about it - this enemy, this resistance (for some of us here we believe that to be spiritual, others know it as just their worst self, their past,their addiction - I think all of the above) and I gave up - even more than I had before, then got strength in the way that helps me - I got in the Bible and some awesome teachings from Joyce Meyer and somegreat music - and then I got mad and started fighting back. I am still weak, but I am not going to focus on that - it is not up to me - God promises if I let Him He will fix it. So I am not allowing myself to think past the current stepping stone - if I do I wlll stumble, fall and tak 3 days to get up - but doing it this way I can look back on the week and give thanks at all the steps I've taken because I did it Gods way.

Word and prayer for the day again: Ephesians 6:13

Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand…and having done all, to stand. Stand!” 

Soundtrack of my day: Mercy Me, Third Day, Natalie Grant  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyEMJBhCtU8 

My to do list: 

Read Bible/Pray

dd school store

call job3, meeting time

job6 proof – 45 min limit 

email school, re: meeting

job1 &  job 2 continue tools: http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/2023#comment-29655

current step – finished big one yesterday, so grateful!  Decide on pending designs, list options (type summaries)

dd school 2:30p

dd appt 3.45-6p (prepare work to bring and do as able)

Clear email/inbox for day 

dd bday invitations – design continue

Feel "all wrong"

I once heard Joyce Meyers say she didn't "feel right" unless she felt "all wrong'.

I don't know how to feel "alright", but I always feel "all wrong" and usuall think that is how others feel aobut me.

I am going to take a walk now.

I did stuff this morning and played on the computer. Boy, do I feel guilty!

I sometimes wonder what it would be like to have no expectations of myself. I remember when I first got into program, I heard someone in program share something I considered to be "unacceptable" and she jsut laughed and said "But it's ok"

I had an urge to go up to her after the meeting and shake her and say "How could you say "It's ok, don't you know it's not??!!" I don't even remember what it was, probably something she didn't do or finish. But she was laughing and happy and here I am, still saying "It's not ok to be imperfect, working at 110% efficiency and productivity, unless a family member is there and in need of your company, but never when you are alone. 

So I am going to take a walk, write a graditude list, then take my son to the dr. for a check up and then soccer later tonight and help him study for a test.

 I sooooooooooo do not want to pass this burden on to my children. I am seeing my perfectionistic thinking being absorbed into their happy little lives and I do not want that for them. They are sooo "all right" I don't want them to feel "ALL WRONG".

I guess I really need to pray. and be grateful that HP can help me with this.

Making stepping stones out of road blocks.

PS Are there sponsors in this program? (just wondering)

 

 

all wrong first step to all right

Hi Vic - I so relate to all of your posts. My heartbreaks to think of my daughter being perfectionstic or not loving herself - Unless youve been there it is hard to get the all right all wrong thing, but I get it!

I know we have the Joyce Meyer connection - her teachings about the word have been life-changing for me. This series is a free download on her website right now and I had to fight my flesh this week to listen but it has been a HUGE help to me - I've laughed and cried and DRUMROLL gotten things done as I listened over and over!

http://www.joycemeyer.org/OurMinistries/EverydayAnswers/encouragement.htm

It is the audio 4 part on hope series.

There arent' sponsors here but there is support - I found that posting a daily ci and using chat box are tools God uses to keep me accountable. Everyone here will offer encouragement,understanding and for those that choose that path, prayer. I will be pray for you this morning and I am here everyday and if you read my posts you will see the ups and downs of  my recovery and what helps me. There are many here o be inspired by! My biggest stumblingblock this week, God turned into a huge stepping stone toward Him. (It is still a block, but I am no longer moved by it)

Thanks Grace

(Hope it is ok to give you the nickname of "Grace"). Thanks for the reply.

The posts work for me because I can put my innermost thoughts down and let them go.

I am glad there are no sponsors because usually, my first reaction would be rebellion and resistance, I really like using God as my sponsor and writing here makes that seem to work.

I did see the Coach listed under the resourse section -Bonnie @$200/ hr and I wasn't sure if that was part of the group.

I think I got one other reply. To see if I got replies, do I need to go to the day/page of my post? is there a site that would list replies?

I don't know if there is some protocol to reply to someone's comment. Are there people who do/ do not want a reply? Is there any way to know?

I do like having some contact with the other members, I guess it will take some time.

Thanks again,

Take care, Vic

 

re: sponsors

no sponsors, we are just a group that gets together online voluntarily to talk about this stuff.   Pro has done a great deal of work putting info out here that may help, also there is a weekly online meeting and usually there is someone in the chatbox if you need immediate support.   That reminds me it's time for the gentle reminder!

JO  

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

Thanks Jo

I am not sure if I could sent one reply to 2 people , so I will send you a copy.

Hope it's ok to nickname you Jo.

The posts work for me because I can put my innermost thoughts down and let them go.

I am glad there are no sponsors because usually, my first reaction would be rebellion and resistance, I really like using God as my sponsor and writing here makes that seem to work.

I did see the Coach listed under the resourse section -Bonnie @$200/ hr and I wasn't sure if that was part of the group.

I think I got one other reply. To see if I got replies, do I need to go to the day/page of my post? is there a site that would list replies?

I don't know if there is some protocol to reply to someone's comment. Are there people who do/ do not want a reply? Is there any way to know?

I do like having some contact with the other members, I guess it will take some time.

Thanks again,

Take care, Vic

@vic

I don't know of a way to go back and check for replies except for finding your original post.   I don't know about the resources either, maybe that was an ad?  I'll go look.  

No that coach is for real, recommended I think by Pro!  Anyway, there's not a lot of protocol around here except put your name in your checkin post and don't be mean lol.})

Seriously Pro posted a "how to" on how to use the check in forum, otherwise it's pretty free form.

 

 

Jo  

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

Journey 9:30 & 6 pm CO

Good morning!   I'm in the office today.  I have been to the gym and stopped by to see Dad, read email, and checked my calendar.  Rushing to the coffeepot before 9:30 meeting lol, then I'll see y'all in the chatbox.

My attitude is not the best this morning.  I see the day dragging on with tasks that are either a)extremely boring or b)extremely intimidating.  I am hoping things will look better after caffeine and quiet time.  ;-) 

UPDATE:  Things did indeed look better after coffee, and even better after qt.  I've had a productive day and as much as I hate to admit it, I work much better when I'm in the office than I do at home *sigh*.  I will work on improving my productivity when working at home!   A big distraction is my personal computer.   May I have the strength to keep the personal computer TURNED OFF during work hours at home.

Jo

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

kromer 8:25 CI

Last couple days have not been great...yesterday, I just barely finished my MUTs, and today I'm having a hard time getting started.

I need to finish the rough draft of a presentation in the next 2 hours, then go to class.

After class, I need to spend some time thinking about what direction I want to go in grad school...I'm feeling a bit lost. Then, I need to take notes from mtg w/ WG, spend 30-60 min brainstorming about her project, and spend an hour or so working on her project.

At 5:15, I have an interview for a part-time tutoring job. I'd really like to get this--the extra money would be a real help!

Finally, this evening I don't need to do a huge amount of work, but I would like to do an hour's work on DP's project and start my stats homework. 

Heading to the chatbox to finish my presentation

kromer 2:00 CI

OK, I finished my presentation (but didn't end up having to go today), then got lunch with friends and talked to them a bit about my grad school frustrations.

Right now, I'm going to spend about 30-45 min thinking/journaling about what direction I want to go in grad school, then I'll take notes from mtg w/ WG and spend some time brainstorming about her project, then spend time working on her project. 

Closing the computer and getting out some paper now, will go to chatbox when I'm done w/ grad school thoughts. 

kromer 3:40

Super-slow but spent some good time thinking about where I want to go in grad school.

I think my main realization is that I don't really want to be in WG's lab, that's part of why working during this lab rotation feels like pulling teeth. I need to do some amount of work for WG over the next month (because I want a good relationship with as many people in my department as possible), and keep my mind open to the possibility that the labwork might pick up. But it's OK for me to focus on finding another lab I like better.

That said, I think my plan for the day is still sound...I'm going to spend 10 min taking notes from Tuesday's mtg, then I'll spend some time brainstorming about the project, then it'll be about time to go to my tutoring interview. 

kromer 8:15 CI

I took notes from mtg, brainstormed, went to tutoring interview, got the job! ended up doing 1.5 hours of tutoring on the spot, now am home and cooking dinner.

After dinner I'll do 1 hr work on WG's project and check back. 

 I need to do something,

 I need to do something, I'm kind of dangling on a bloody rope.  When one refuses to make decisions, decisions are made for hir.  I once gave a college speech about my inability or delay in making decisions.  It was a ten minute ode to the dysfunctionality I had in life that led me to this 12 step program.  I knew it then, but I didn't have a program for it.  Eight years ago--

A while ago at the suggestion of someone giving a share in another program meeting, I wrote down a list of everything I didn't like about my life, then i went over each item and thought about practical ways to improve it.  Right now I feel like I can see the scariness of my situation before me: mother will not help, no psychologist b/c no insurance, looking for a job,  have no means to pay for school, because fed funding ended, need to pay the car paymen this month, will receive my severance in two weeks, and I am willing to be patient, but ---continuing--- need to apply for leave of absence, will be evicted if I am not enrolled in twelve units, must make up incomplete coursework.  Yeah.  But, and this is the "but" part...I feel like I am submerged.  Not that these things are actually hard, but, that my mind has become so overwhelmed (irrationally) that it has retreated into fantasy or addiction in order to deal with the onset of emotions.  My mind has retreated.  I feel outside of myself.  I feel totally outside of my world, like I'm looking in.  I feel disociated.  I need to see a therapist. This shit about not seeing someone b/c of the professional doctrine not to see two people at once is crazy; there is no way I can see the other person now that I am not with insurance.  So I understand the situation not.

Dear HP ,  Please align

Dear HP ,

 Please align my objectives with your will.

 

Thanks.

re: need to do something

Actually those things on your list do sound like they are hard Fudo Shin.   I know you are struggling but this post sounds pretty positive to me - you know what you need to do.   My prayer for you today is that you are able to make progress on one or more of these goals. 

Jo  

There is a proper balance between not asking enough of oneself and asking or expecting too much.  - May Sarton

I also called the person who

I also called the person who does intake at one of the counseling centers nearby, so I may have someone contacting me.  Don't know if it will lead to something....because I've had a bad time with therapist interns from their clinic before, but there may be someone good, who knows-

Thank you so much.  I

Thank you so much.  I actually did call someone at the department. I set up an interview time to discuss my LOA, and I contacted the leasing agent of my apartment complex to at leas figure out if I could renew my lease.  I now know I should apply to undergrad housing as a single, or wait until I can apply as a grad housing tenant.

isabo ci 800am

Fantastic starter, bGG!!!

Today, gone in the am, doing some errands and having coffee.  This afternoon I want to get started on Easter stuff. I will alternate with organizing Xmas stuff and bring it downstairs til that is done.  It's April already!  Gotta get it downstairs!!!

Nothing is worth more than this day  - Goethe

first post

This is my first post so if I'm in the wrong place, let me know.

 

This should be for Thursday.  I'm in a different time zone than most of you though so for me it is already evening.  I'll have a better list tomorrow.  But to save what is left of today, here's my goals.  It's 4:30 PM for me right now and I plan to:

finish laundry and clean kitchen

do the floors

cook dinner 

read UM 1 chp

read BW 1 chp

Do I write back here to check things off as a new post, or do I edit this post as I get things done?

It's around 7:30PM.

It's around 7:30PM.  Actually got the kitchen and the floors clean.  It was a big job.  Compromised on dinner and did take out. I'm pretty sure I can get both chapters read before bed.  Laundry will have to wait until tomorrow. It doesn't seem like much, but it's more than I've done in a couple of days, so tomorrow should be easier just waking up to a clean house.  It's always an obstacle to doing anything else when I have chores on the top of my list.  I work from home so it's especially important for me to keep up with chores, otherwise my work suffers too.

yea reallyneedhelp!

from what i've heard from this group, that small step you took today is a step in recovery. Our recovery seems to be made of such small steps, taken daily, even hourly.

I am hopeful for you!

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the touch of the master's hand: http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/1898#comment-27748

"fall down seven times, get up eight" - japanese proverb

welcome r.n.h

you're in the right place. We're all here because we really need help. You're in the daily thread for today. That's the right place.

Now i think your most important step is to check back, success for failure. One of the most useful things to me is that i can post my failures without being judged, in fact to a group of people who actually understand and support me. That's so helpful to me.

You can click 'edit' on your post to update it w/ status, but once someone has replied to it (like i have now) you can only 'reply' to your own post. But you can cut-n-paste your to-do list into your reply and update it that way. People do it both ways.

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the touch of the master's hand: http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/1898#comment-27748

"fall down seven times, get up eight" - japanese proverb