Procrastinators Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from chronic procrastination.

Introducing myself

Hi everybody,

I rediscovered this site yesterday, and I intent to start using it to fight my quite serious procrastination. Introducing myself is the first step.

I have been struggling with my behavior for years, maybe even the major part of my life (I am 30 now). However, it has never given me any real problems, until about a year ago. I changed jobs from an academic (university) to a business environment with more responsibilities. I am now a senior scientist at the research department of a large electronic company. I now have to fill in my own projects and make my own plans. Lacking a real supervisor who tells me what to do when I am drifting around, things started to go wrong. My projects  never get finished, I don't take initiatives to start new projects  and my written output is much too low. Also in my personal life things were a mess.  In September last year I realized that I needed help, but I could not exactly pinpoint what my problems were.  I visited my company counselor (a psychologist), and talked to her about my problems.  By doing some test she ruled out some possible causes for my problems (concentration problems for example, which I thought was the main reason), and she referred me to a colleague of her, a psychotherapist. After four sessions, his main conclusion was that I had problems balancing my short-term and long-term desires.  In Freudian terms: My 'id' was much stronger than my 'super-ego', and my 'ego' was not capable of balancing them.  His suggestion was that I should have someone in both my working as well as my personal life who keeps an eye on my progress and with whom I can agree on goals and deadlines. Of course I postponed this for some time. At this moment, I have meetings with a colleague every two weeks to discuss my progress and my projects. However, I am still able to find excuses and postpone things. In a few weeks, I have an appointment with my manager, and if I cannot show him something finished, I am afraid I will be in trouble.  In my personal life, nothing really changed.

My biggest time waster is the internet. Turning it off would be a simple solution, but I quite often really need it for my work.  I check news sites multiple times each hour, sometimes play online games, update my personal home page, and even sometimes visit pornography sites at work. I hate myself when I am doing this, and often don't like what I am doing anyway, but I am not able to stop myself from doing it. I fear the consequences when people find out what I am doing. When I finally start working, I often do stuff that is useful, but not as important as the things I should be doing. My personal life is the same. There it is easier to ignore the internet (although still difficult), but I still find myself avoiding things that need to be done. As a result I feel almost always restless and tense, because I am continuously aware of the fact that I am not doing what I want or should be doing.

After my visits to the therapist, I tried to implement a time-management method to focus more on my long-term goals, but this turned into a time-waster itself a few times. I now have a method based on "getting things done" into place. It helps me a little bit, but I now realize that time management is not the real problem.  However, without a time-management system, I think I would be completely lost. At least I now have a list of things I should be doing.

It was only until a  few months ago, well after my visits to the therapist, that I encountered the term 'procrastination', in which I recognize so much of my own behavior.  The 'diagnosis' of the therapist is of course quite compatible with procrastination, but it can be very nice to read that you are not the only one dealing with these problems. As a very down-to-earth person,  I find it very difficult to talk about my mental problems with people I know and even more to ask for their help. This site might therefore be very helpful to me. I will try to use the book-ending tool, and maybe participate in some discussions. Of course, as always, I should be careful that this site does not turn into a procrastination-cause itself.

I have a lot of questions that I want to ask to you, about how you handle and feel about things.  Here the first, I'll keep the rest for a later post:

I realize that it is important to set mid- and long-term goals to pursue. However, I am always unsure what my goals should be. If I set goals today, I start doubting tomorrow. I am afraid this is one of the more subtle procrastiniation mechanisms, but how to avoid this? How do you define your long-term goals and stick to them?

Ronald

thanks for your reactions

It is very useful to see how other people cope with their problems.

Flexiblefine: I indeed use Firefox and tried different plugins, but they often only help for a short time. It is too simple to disable them or find a workaround.  Besides that, looking for good plugins each time is a perfect way to procrastinate. Your "Begin your work day with work" tip is indeed very clever. I'll definitely  try it. When I arrive at work, I tend to start with checking some websites (not work related) and my personal email, and before I know it an hour has passed and I'm frustrated already. I've also started to keep a time log at work, which will help I think, or at least confront me with my procrastination.

Scarlett: your feelings of self hate sound very familiar, but I find it very difficult to find out if that is the real problem, or just a manifestation of something else. I am not religious, so a 12-step program will not work for me, but I hope that it works for you. Regarding the long-term goals: I think you're right. I just have to set them and pursue them for a predefined amount of time. The tricky thing of course is that setting goals often only works if you want to pursue them. Why take the procrastination hurdle if there's nothing behind it that you want? Sabotaging then becomes very easy. Now that I think of it, not sticking to my goals maybe one of my major problems. I've changed career drastically a few times, convinced that the new career would be for life. Within a year, doubt is there again.

Welcome, Ronald

I'll quote the same paragraph Scarlett did...

My biggest time waster is the internet. Turning it off would be a simple solution, but I quite often really need it for my work.  I check news sites multiple times each hour, sometimes play online games, update my personal home page, and even sometimes visit pornography sites at work. I hate myself when I am doing this, and often don't like what I am doing anyway, but I am not able to stop myself from doing it.

Which web browser do you use?  There are a couple of extensions available for Firefox that help me with my web-browsing procrastination.  Try TimeTracker to give you an idea of just how much time you are spending on the web.  In addition, BlockSite lets you create a list of sites you don't want to see -- and it will even remove links to those sites from other web pages.  (No more of your regular porn sources that way!)

I fear the consequences when people find out what I am doing. When I finally start working, I often do stuff that is useful, but not as important as the things I should be doing. My personal life is the same.

I think procrastination is something we do to avoid anxiety, and the nagging fear that someone will find out what we're really doing (or not doing) pushes us to stay busy on all kinds of things that are of no real use.

When we do finally turn around and face our anxieties about work, we often do just as you describe -- we do sub-optimal stuff.  That way, we get the best of both worlds: we do get something done, but we still manage to let ourselves down.

I've used two tactics in particular that have helped me get more done.

  1. Work first.  Begin your work day with work, and keep working on real work until noon or lunchtime.  Knowing that the afternoon is atill available for you to check in on news and web stuff should keep you from feeling deprived, and getting stuff done in the morning builds a productive mindset that can last into the rest of the day.
  2. Shorten your lists.  I use GTD too, and I have good luck when I plan my next week during my weekly review.  Just a few things each day (3-5 actions) help me stay focused on those items, so I can finish the list.  Finished is motivational.

I could go on, but these are a couple of things to start with.  Keep track of how many mornings you really work your way through, and watch how much more productive you can be with just a few hours a day.

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flexiblefine
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheNowHabit/

Welcome!

My biggest time waster is the internet. Turning it off would be a simple solution, but I quite often really need it for my work.  I check news sites multiple times each hour, sometimes play online games, update my personal home page, and even sometimes visit pornography sites at work. I hate myself when I am doing this, and often don't like what I am doing anyway, but I am not able to stop myself from doing it. I fear the consequences when people find out what I am doing. When I finally start working, I often do stuff that is useful, but not as important as the things I should be doing. My personal life is the same. There it is easier to ignore the internet (although still difficult), but I still find myself avoiding things that need to be done. As a result I feel almost always restless and tense, because I am continuously aware of the fact that I am not doing what I want or should be doing.

I could have written this paragraph verbatim, every single word.

My therapist is a Jungian.  He and I have come to the conclusion that my base problem is hating myself.  I use harsh words for motivation and castigate myself all the time.  I am hyperaware of what I *should* be doing.  We've actually started to craft a 12-step program based on this, substituting "self-loathing" for "alchohol."

I'm also currently reading The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle and I'm trying to "watch the Thinker" with some success, that is separate myself from my thoughts.

Of course, I'm not saying that your therapist is right or wrong, just sharing my experiences. 

As for your questions, these are issues I really struggle with as well.  Perhaps you could set your goals and commit to a length of time to pursue them without alteration.  Then at the end of that time, revisit and adjust goals as needed.  Even as I type that suggestion I can see ways to sabotage it; but then, sabotaging things is our superpower, no?  Tongue out