Procrastinators Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from chronic procrastination.

I am a newcomer and a chronic and compulsive procrastinator...

I am a newcomer and a chronic and compulsive procrastinator. I found this site mentioned in the latest edition of Burka and Yuen's "Procrastination" that I just bought this week. And yes, that's right, I am procrastinating right now.

At the end of January I joined my first 12-Step group and in March I joined my second 12-Step group. I have by the grace of God had excellent recovery one day at a time in both. In my first fellowship I have 3 sponsees and I am very active in both fellowships.

As part of my 9th and 10th steps (amends and character defects) in my first fellowship , last week, together with my wife I joined DA.

I am a compulsive debtor (I pay bills late, deposit checks late, file insurance claims late, rack up finance charges, overdraft fees and bouced check fees, delay paying back debts) and a compulsive underearner (I work in a dea-end job and procrastinate all day). My wife is a compulsive spender (most of the time she is paranoid over spending and then sometimes she will go on small binges for relief).

I was intrigued when, after two face-to-face meetings we joined a DA phone meeting for underearners and we heard a veteran speak about the concept of non-financial debting. She was talking about making bad decisions and paying for them "with interest" as being an example of compulsive non-financial debting.

Her particular example was how she had been speeding to get an advance on time and she was stopped by a cop, given summonses and she lost far more time and money than she would have gained - debting with interest.

It struck me that procrastination (on non-financial issues) is an excellent example of non-financial debting. I do believe that there is a home for many procrastinators within DA, much as I am finding a home there.

Lastly I would like to share my own feelings on this piece,

"The jokes about procrastination infuriate me. This is not a funny
problem - not if you are suffering from true, chronic procrastination.
Lawyers have been disbarred due to procrastination. Small business
owners have lost their businesses due to procrastination. People's
lives fall apart and are destroyed due to procrastination. This is not
a funny problem."

I know from bitter experience that procrastination is much more than a joke. I identify with every word in that paragraph. However AA's Rule 62 (search for "Rule #62" on that page from AA's 12 & 12) has been crucial to my recovery. I have lived 43 years of my life on resentment and frustration and I need to be able to set myself free and laugh about it, as the AA Big Book says,

"We have been speaking to you of serious, sometimes tragic
things. We have been dealing with alcohol in its worst aspect. But we
aren't a glum lot. If newcomers could see no joy or fun in our
existence, they wouldn't want it...

When we see a man sinking into the mire
that is alcoholism, we give him first aid and place what we have at his
disposal. For his sake, we do recount and almost relive the horrors of
our past. But those of us who have tried to shoulder the entire burden
and trouble of others find we are soon overcome by them.

So we think cheerfulness and laughter
make for usefulness. Outsiders are sometimes shocked when we burst into
merriment over a seemingly tragic experience out of the past. But why
shouldn't we laugh? We have recovered, and have been given the power to
help others."

(BB p.132,
The Family Afterward)

So most certainly we need to convey that procrastination is MORE than a joke, but 12 Step fellowships operate on attraction and not promotion and to thisnewcomer at least , it is very off-putting to hear that procrastination is NOT a joke, to me that's like a massive billboard announcing in bold flashing neon lights, "WE ARE A GLUM LOT".

Similarly the repetition of the word "infuriate" in the sentences below intrigues me:

"The jokes about procrastination infuriate me."

"The blindness of the psychological community in not recognizing procrastination as an addictive disorder also infuriates me."

Alcoholism is an addictive disorder and yet the AA Big Book authors did not hesitate to look for underlying causes,

"First, we searched out the flaws in our
make-up which caused our failure. Being convinced that self, manifested
in various ways, was what had defeated us, we considered its common

Resentment is the "number one" offender.
It destroys more alcoholics than anything else. From it stem all forms
of spiritual disease, for we have been not only mentally and physically
ill, we have been spiritually sick. When the spiritual malady is
overcome, we straighten out mentally and physically."

(BB page 64, How it Works)

There seems to me to be a similarity between resentment and infuriation which suggests to me that I want to make sure that at least for myself I know,

"It is plain that a life which includes
deep resentment leads only to futility and unhappiness. To the precise
extent that we permit these, do we squander the hours that might have
been worth while. But with the compulsive
procrastinator, whose hope is the maintenance
and growth of a spiritual experience, this business of resentment is
infinitely grave. We found that it is fatal... The
insanity of procrastination returns and we procrastinate again. And with us, to
is to die."

(paraphrase of BB p 66, How it Works)

So, for me at least when I am infuriated it is my problem not the other guy's.

That's all I have right now, glad to be able to contribute some non-conformist thoughts and thanks for letting me share.

Keep coming Back

Welcome and thank you for sharing. Many of us are in other 12 step programs.I have had miracles with the 12 steps- hope for the hopeless. I have hope for me and for you.

Keep coming back.


Welcome Dov W

And that's so cool about the book mention!   I'm so buying that book this weekend!


"The elevator to success is out of order.   You'll have to take the stairs . . . one step at a time." - Joe Girard

buy the book thru this site!

Buy the book through this site to help support the site. Just click the "Books" button at the top of the page. If you put the ISBN (0738211702) in the search box, it will come right up.

Well, you'd be buying it through Amazon, but Amazon will know you clicked the link from here so they'll send a commission.

I'm tempted to buy the new edition myself to see what it says about this site!

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.


welcome!  Hope you do not have to stay long :).

PA is in Burka and Yuen's book!

"I am a newcomer and a chronic and compulsive procrastinator. I found this site mentioned in the latest edition of Burka and Yuen's "Procrastination" that I just bought this week. And yes, that's right, I am procrastinating right now."

Oh how cool!!!! That was one of the books I read before I started this fellowship and site! I have the original edition of the book. :)

What does it say????

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.

PA in Burka/Yuen, p.217

Dear pro, it says:

 "In addition to your friends, you can turn to the internet for help. You will find chat rooms for procrastinators and help from Procrastinators Anonymous."

 There are even much longer passages, I'd better say pages of quoting your website in a very popular, even bestselling German procr.-book by Lobo and Passig, I hope they asked before using your material? I so hope it will soon be published in English, cause it has a totally different approach towards accepting your procr. AND improving your work habits at the same time, and it is funny, too, it made me laugh and cry at the same time so very often :-D



says "sorry for my silly English, not a native speaker here :-) "


constance - I'm quoted in a book without my permission? :(

Nobody asked me for permission to quote from this Web site. Could you tell me more about what it says?


Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.

Dear pro, yep, I think

Dear pro,

yep, I think they quoted some bits and pieces from the forums. I've flipped through the book to find those passages, but as I'm fighting a big hangover from yesterdays party, I give in and go to bed now ;-)

Here's the publisher's website, it is quite a large publishing house, so when you write to them I'm pretty sure you'll get an answer! The least they could do is send you a copy of the book, right? Here's the book-info:

Kathrin Passig, Sascha Lobo

Dinge geregelt kriegen

rowohlt BERLIN

HC, 288 pages, October 2008

€ 19,90

sample translation

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Kathrin Passig, Sascha Lobo
How to Get Things Done Without a Spark of Self-Discipline


knows the feeling of finally intending to answer a letter you received
weeks ago, only to find it, many additional weeks later, buried under a
pile of unpaid bills. Or the dismay of discovering your tax return is
months overdue, while a fading Post-It note on your computer screen
reads: “Make a to-do list!!”

Some fifty percent of us are inveterate procrastinators. This book is
for them. Passig and Lobo show how to escape the pressure of to-do
lists and sort out your life without getting the sort of bad conscience
caused by emails, requests, tasks, plans and duties – and without
having to trick yourself into becoming something you’re not. A lot of
things that stress us out because they demand to get done are, in fact,
not worth a second thought. Passig and Lobo show readers how to
organize life so as not to have be organized yourself.

the Author

was born in 1975 and worked as creative director in an advertising
agency. He is also an editor of “Riesenmaschine”. In 2006, he and
co-author Holm Friebe published their well-received book We Call It
Work. He works as a freelance advertiser.

the Author

born in 1970 and lives in Berlin working as a journalist, translator
and computer programmer. She has translated George W. Bush and Bob
Dylan and writes for major German publications. She is a founder member
of the Zentrale Intelligenz Agentur (an alternative artists co-op) and
is a major contributor to its weblog Riesenmaschine (Giant Machine),
which received the prestigious Grimme Online Award in 2005. Her short
story You Are Here won her both the Ingeborg-Bachmann-Award and the
Klagenfurt-Audience-Award in 2006.

I just love their book, it is sooo funny and pulls all sorts of legs of authors like Fiore & co.

Their contact-info, I just picked one from the foreign rights department:


Best of luck to you!



says "sorry for my silly English, not a native speaker here :-) "

"Failing to plan is planning to fail"