Procrastinators Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from chronic procrastination.

Or on-line meeting

Please let me know if a 12 step meeting starts up here. I'll be back then:)

another effort at an online meeting

Online Meeting Proposal

Anyone for a once a week meeting at 6am California time? - Perhaps on Saturday?

That would be 2pm my time

I'm up for it if I'm here, though I'm not likely to be around this or next Saturday.

We tried something similar once before and set up a meeting in the chat box. Two of us were able to attend, but there were less people posting in those days. I think it's worth another shot.

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online meetings

I was going to start online meetings, but the bookending helps me more more than I think meetings would. For me, the meetings would just take time. But feel free to organize one! If you create meeting materials, please post them.

to meet, or not to meet, that is the question

i agree, pro. the meetings are 90% about getting me started in the morning - when i otherwise WOULDNT get started.

saturdays, for example, i tend to loaf. a 5 to 10 minute online meeting would get my juices flowing.

anyway, let me know if you change your mind.

you don't need me to start an online meeting

You can go ahead and start an online meeting, even if I don't participate. It doesn't interest me, but if it interests other people go ahead. I installed a real-time chat feature that works just fine - you could use that for online meetings.

12 Step meetings always include the statement of purpose, 12 steps, and 12 traditions (if you want to bother typing it out - I wouldn't). I think what's more important for this fellowship is a laundry list of characteristics of a procrastinator that lets people evaluate for themselves whether they belong here. E.g. Do you do this, this, this, this.... blah blah... then we can help.

I was going to write the laundry list, but didn't because I had second thoughts about starting the meeting. But you can write it - or write a draft, post it here, and we'll all contribute comments. I can type up the final version (seeing as how I made my living as a writer and editor for many years).

I post here first thing when I get up - that's how I get started in the morning. Since I'm on the east coast, I'm already posting when it's 6am where you are.

we'll see

Thanks for the feedback, Pro. This forum is working well for me. The online chat may not actually be necessary.

I agree that 12-step verbiage can be cumbersome, btw. I have no desire to repeat it online.

Still, I do need a firm commitment to another human being to get me going in the morning, so I am open if anyone wants to do even a five or ten minute meeting at 6am West Coast time (California, not Wales, Slider)

if you read this and you're interested, just post a reply!

can't commit

I'm commitment-phobic (see explanation in "Too Perfect" for details) so I can't promise to be here at 9am, but I usually am.

I don't like being dependent on other people, and I don't like people being dependent on me. I've only recently become aware of how big an issue this is for me - it's another part of "Too Perfect" I've been giving a lot of thought to.

And it's true - you ARE there for us

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..but this is for you, Pro


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Thanks for being there!


You seem to be assuming I'm a woman. Don't be so sure. My gender is a secret. 8)

no expectations or demands

Please don't have any expectations of me. I'm demand sensitive and demand resistant. If I start to feel like I have to be here, I will probably disappear (judging from what I've done in other contexts).

Seriously... Please don't put this on me. This is a peer support group. The only service I'm providing here is the existence of the site.


Meetings might be helpful, but as we are all in different time zones, is it possible to have an open meeting room in case people show up? I am like you, pro, both demand sensitive and resistant, but know that these do help me.

meet in the chatbox anytime

See the Chatbox in the left sidebar? You can meet there anytime. That facility has been there since almost the launch of the Web site, but people rarely use it.

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.

Let´s meet in the chatbox

Meeting in the chatbox for chatting is a great idea but for that we need a world clock or a link to to time zones to know what is the right time to meet. I would suggest us to meet in the chatbox every three hours EST e.g. on Saturdays and Wednesdays because we come from different time zones. Say 3 am, 6 am, 9 am, noon, 3 pm, 6 pm, 9 pm  and midnight. We could chat to know each other better.

We cannot have official on-line meetings in the chatbox because the box is available only for members of this site. The third tradition is: "The only requirement for P.A. membership is a desire to stop procrastinating." We must let in everybody who wants to stop procrastination even if he is a guest. We cannnot say we have on-line meetings only for members of our site; the meetings must be open for everybody in need.

Where do persons visiting on-line meetings send their money from 7 th tradition? Shoud we establish a World Service Office?

online meetings and contributions

Ritva, as I said in my other message, the requirement to join the Web site is only to keep out spammers. Anyone with a desire not to procrastinate may join. There is nothing about the requirement to join that violates the third tradition. The chatbox is perfectly suited for online meetings, and in fact that's why I installed it.

To contribute to the cost of maintaining this Web site and its chatbox, use the Contribute link that's in several places on the Web site. There are options for one-time contributions and recurring contributions. I pay for everything here out of my own pocket (domain name and hosting), plus I contribute a lot of my own time. I did all the Web programming for the site, I wrote a lot of articles for the site, and I regularly spend time deleting spam and banning spammers. A few people contribute towards the cost of the site, but the vast majority do not. Even $5/month would be very helpful to offset costs.

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.