Procrastinators Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from chronic procrastination.

Thursday June 18, 2009

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Please, no advice.  Thank you.  Prayers are welcome.



successfully avoided the sites I said that I wanted to commit to
avoiding today, but I find myself again chopping at the bit.  If I stick with it through tomorrow morning, I am going to post a CHIP for myself for ONE day.   Part of
what has helped me is keeping myself busy with other tasks today; and
contacting *other* people than those whom I wished to avoid.  Right now
I'm going to go on a short walk.  One of my big problems is that I
overwhelm myself.  

I want to be accountable, because that has helped me the most in my other programs, so I'm going to pray about the solution.  Because I want my sobriety.  I want to do what I say I'm going to do.  I don't know how I'm going to do it, but this is something I want for myself.


Message received

Fellow procrastinator Fudo Shin,

I will no longer attempt to be supportive, nor respond to you in any way in a forum. I get that for some of us, we just need a place to put out our thoughts without responses.


That's not at all what I was

That's not at all what I was getting at.  I usually welcome support, just not advice, questions and insinuations that are not relevant to my program of recovery.  Active listening and sharing hope is fine in response to my posts, but if you feel you'd rather not reply to my posts, and stay on the safe side, that's fine too.

Agnus - does this still count for a Thurs CI?

a record late check-in...I was so anxious this morning about a major work presentation that I literally could not sit still. tried to pray, meditate, talked with sponsee, did deep breathing, even took a valerian (rare for me, have to watch out for dependency even on herbal stuff for me).  Got through the event ok and then had one distraction after another, missed a massage appt, and now am work-bingeing. 

This was not one of my better-feeling days, but as someone shared here earlier this week, it's actually a day when I got stuff done. Just never listed it so can't check it off to feel "done."  But - deep breath - I am now "DONE" for the day and going to bed. Amen! :-)

Recycler CI 6:05pm EST

Hi Pro Buddies!

This afternoon after successfully working on projects, I thought I could successfully do my CI. Nope! I started working on it twice, and got called into another project each time. ((sigh)). Oh well, that's why I am at work -- to do projects! lol

This morning at the gym, I did elliptical, stretching, and most of ab exercises.

At the office, this is the time of year that I do "work-ahead" projects. Projects that if I don't do them during June (the "slow" month), I sure won't have time to work them in during year-end, etc ;) Yay, I got some more of that done today. At lunch I meet with a sponsoree and we talked about the steps. In the afternoon, I did Extensive event scheduling for the next 12 months. After arriving at home, I have eaten dinner and checked email.

Next: household chores to get ready for Dad's visit on Saturday. Goal: if I can get enough stuff done tonight, I can go to a social event tomorrow night. Oh, I need to be around other humans soooo much!!! My cold and other things have isolated me a little, so it's time to go out!

Have a great night, everyone! :)



Thank you, gals & guys, for being here! :)

tiptree 1:25 cig

to do:

- case images migrated
- dcm migrated
- b.m. bug fixed
- test dcm import
- 50 pp work reading
- test mayo dcm
- test login change bug
- characterize stale bc
- pix. -> determine why only native transfer syntax is available
- clean office
- guitar
- w. w.
- mtg
- merge bug
- clean br
- clean in basement
- read 1 iss. of T.
- rbtp

GeorgeSmiley 9 AM; plus updates

I've actually been on for about 40 minutes and working about 30. FInished up writing TVP. Now need to edit and upload pix for the same project.

The other things I need to do today include:

Major decluttering

Work on Project P-9

Work on Project W-M-6

Work/finish project T-H

update, 10 AM

Well, finished T-V-P, pending any editor requests for  changes.

Going to set the timer for some decluttering





Want what you have. Be who you are. Do what you can. ~Forrest Church

The Hero's Code:

Show Up. Pay Attention. Speak the Truth. Let Go of the Outcome.

CI Do It Now 9:43 pm THURS


10:00 cc  DONE

CAL JOSEPH  ???  No need

SEE wED FOR A bunch more calls

call DR  DONE


ckeck notes and

TINE SHEETS**********   DONE

pROGRESS not prefction   DONE

Hope-Faith CI 9:35

3rd day of offical summer break

Day 2 Smoke Free

Today's task list

  1. Complete AM routine  Done
  2. Fly  15 min of clutter done
  3. Put up snap beans (Green or String Beans)  Done
  4. Compost Pile 
  5. Prime Desk
  6. Summer/Winter Clothes
  7. Find L/S program
  8. Work on decluttering stuff on bar 15 min Done
  9. Work on making Angels In Progress
  10. DD practice 
  11. Wiki


kromer 9:15 CI

Good morning all!

*Finish dataset list
*Summarize dataset list and come up with wish list
*Finish review papers
*Do sig. analysis for MC's project (came up with a strategy for this, will do after dinner)
*Read paper on RBP mutant and make slide

Other tasks:
*Ask about animal training
*Write up 3 expts (printed out papers for this)
*Get refs for other expts (did some work on this)
*Write up QC+compendium+suggestions
*Clean bathroom
*Organize files on lab computer

Right now, I'm going to work on the dataset list (go through 30 datasets), then I'll read paper on RBP mutant and make slide, then I'll finish review papers.

Update 11: I finished my first MIT (dataset list). Now, I'm going to read paper on RBP mutant and make slide. Then I'll have some lunch. At lunch, I'll ask about animal training. Back after lunch to finish review papers.

kromer 9:10 CI

Came home, had dinner, took a couple of hours off, and I'm still feeling incredibly fried for some reason. I'm going to push myself to at least finish the analysis for MC's project...should be able to get this done in an hour or so. Heading to the chatbox now.

Thursday ck in


Still being "more" productive but getting rid of the junk in my head, as per my procratination log.

I would have thought that looking at the negatve self talk and  getting it out and connecting with others on 12 step on line loops, writing all this humiliating garbage for others to see would be a frivilous, childish, waste of time. And yet by doing this, so far, I am more productive (I have it in black and white). I do feel happier.

So, even though it doesn't "seem" like the right way- the "right" way seems like I need to torture, criticize, punish, etc. myself- it is still working better than that way.

Thanks for letting my share. I loved the start picture "truth" again...and the picture, so beautiful with the sunlight!really magical.

The person who gets farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare.  The sure-thing boat never gets far from shore.

Dale Carnegie      

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steps work - inventory


I reckon it's 4:20am.  Har

I reckon it's 4:20am.  Har har.  Anyways, I am going to start something today where I stay off of basically the following sites, b/c even if they make me happy, I am an addict, and I am lacking self-control.  Right now what I need in order to feel good and be effective again is to face the things that need to be accomplished so that I can get over this "hurdle" that causes me to feel lack of esteem.  I am going to avoid the following sites for one day, then a week, then a month:

  • social networking sites, including facebook, twitter, youtube
  • dating sites
  • chatting sites: woome, chat with a stranger, etc.  I cannot be on a chatting site.  MMORPGs count as "chat sites".  IRC.  The only exception is 12 step-related chat.
  • chat programs
  • YouTube, Google videos, Crackle
  •, and calling anyone's associated fan line


My guess is you're meeting legitimate socializing needs

but research shows that the more people spend time on computer socializing, the lonelier, and more unhappy, they get.

Do you have opportunities for face to face socializing with real friends and family?

cross talk

You know -- this is crosstalk.  And I would appreciate, if you don't crosstalk with me from now on.  I don't want speculation about how I may be lonely, cuz that's not really part of what I wrote in the post.  It's very triggering to have people crosstalking.  I'd appreciate if you'd leave me alone and/or only speak about the issue intended, which is procrastination.



The forum is not a meeting, it is a forum. There are no cross-talk rules on the forum. People give each other advice on the forum all the time. That is what it is for.

Please don't criticize or try to discipline other forum members. Meetings are in the chatbox on Sunday, and that is the only place where 12-step rules apply. Read about the site for more information:

If you have problems with something someone says in the forum, please notify me rather than scolding people on your own. I am the webmaster here. This site is not run by group conscience, only the 12-step meeting is run by group conscience.

Also, please do not post messages with only a dot for the subject (or worse, nothing). They are impossible to delete without going into the database.

Thank you for your cooperation. 

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.


I didn't realize the rule about no unsolicited advice or feedback applied to forum posts, as well as in meetings. If I could delete my feedback, I would. My intentions were good - sorry it offended.


Speaking just for myself, which is what I should have done, I guess, I am happier when I have face to face interactions, and limit computer or "virtual" interactions. 


I think there's been a clear misunderstanding here.  I am not saying that you are not allowed to crosstalk or give advice in general; nor am I saying that there is a "rule". I am only asking you not to crosstalk *with* me, as I wrote.  This is not a general principle nor am I trying to make it seem to be the case; I am just asking that when you communicate specifically with me that you do not crosstalk. 

advice in forum is the norm

"Crosstalk" is not a term that applies here. It's a term that relates only to protocol in 12-step meetings. The forum is not a 12-step meeting.

Giving advice to each other is the norm in the forum (and should stay that way). If you don't want advice, then say at the top of your posts, "I do not want advice in response to this post."

Last Warning: Stop calling it crosstalk. I've gotten email from several other people now about being scolded by you in the forum for "crosstalk". If you don't like the usual forum interaction, don't post here. Don't try to change everyone else.

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.

mamajama - you did nothing wrong, advice is welcome in the forum

See message above to fudo_shin. You did nothing wrong.

Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.

chick checks in

thanks for this beautiful and inspiring starter bGG and good luck w yr project. and solidarity about the push to get things done. I am in that place too.


project l: keep going


wash table cloth

get food


byGodsGrace todays CI

Working late - doing fairly well - but needed a perfectionism reminder for the day! I have so much to do and I can get it done, but can't afford to get stuck perfecting and not finishing!

God help me today to work wisely and stay in your grace!

  Done is better than perfect.” Scott Allen