Welcome to newcomers - please read (this will help).
This wise message was posted in response to a new member message. I'm making it sticky here so all new members will see it. Thanks, movingalong. -pro
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Motivation Follows Action -- and "Microbursts"
What we've learned here is that motivation doesn't seem to come by itself. Oddly, motivation FOLLOWS action.
Most of our tasks seem intimidating, so we avoid them. So what I do is ... a tiny movement in the direction of a task I am dreading.
I might just take out the box of "Intimidating Paperwork", place the box on the table, put my hands inside the box, and then STOP. Then I put the box away.
Then I celebrate that I was brave enough to take the ACTION of placing my hands upon the pile. Sounds silly, but it does help.
Later on, I might take one paper out of the box, and look at it, then put it away BEFORE I freak out. I celebrate that I was able to take a piece of paper out of the box.
All of these tiny actions, are ACTIONS.
Even though small, I celebrate them. They help me see that I can take an action, without it having to be a "Horrifying Time-Consuming Crisis Event".
After I do a few of these tiny things, I might actually be brave enough to work on one sheet of paper for a full five minutes.
Motivation FOLLOWS action.
That's the only way I can get "unstuck".
Working on it for 5 minutes is progress -- (progress from my prior pattern of paralysis).
Hugs!
Credit for the idea of "Motivation Follows Action" goes to things I have read in various places (about unrelated topics) -- and also from various things here at the Procrastinators Anonymous website.
Credit for the idea of "Microbursts" goes to Cheryl Miller at this link: http://tinyurl.com/yr2ne4
- By movingalong at 27 Jul 2008 - 4:56pm
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Jumping in
"Act and God will Act" - Joan of Arc
Found that a few days before I stumbled into your "Motivation Follows Action" and both are right.
Micro-burst scheduling
Hi microburst fans
Anyone can respond to this post saying when they might want to be on, so other people can join if they want to have a buddy at the same time.
Happy productivity everyone!
piet
This is such a great post
This is such a great post thank you moving along! You see I believe this is how my procrastination starts, I just say to myself only one minute, then I end up taking a whole hour! The reverse can be true for doing work by taking baby steps, I'll try to force this one in my thinking!
Logged on for the first
Logged on for the first time today..it says I have been a member for 5 weeks...can't believe so much time has passed. I guess signing up was a microburst, I won't focus on the procrastination of 5 weeks.
Amazing feeling of stress in joining...in potentially having any group I am accountable to for correct action. THere is that demand resistance welling up.
There's no stress Jack!
You're not accountable to us, only to yourself. By checking in every day, it gives you an impetus to get moving. It usually works pretty well. As for us, we're not here to criticize. I've been here about 3 months and I've not yet seen a SINGLE negative comment from one member to another. We're here to support each other! So have a good day!
"A year from now, you may wish you had started today." - Karen Lamb
"Fall down seven times, stand up eight." - Japanese proverb
Thanks Great
Thanks Great quotations Huma
Welcome Jack
Congratulations on logging in today!!!
Welcome connecticutJack!
Good luck!
We're all here to support each other!
Where do I go from here?
Thank you all for such a warm welcome. I am now left with figuring out what to do. I feel completely jumbled like I don't have any plan here. A little direction to get me started would be helpful. Please and thank you.
start here stefinIe!
Welcome!
Most of us would advise you to use the Daily Check-In threads. Every day, someone (usually from Europe) starts a dated thread in which we all check-in and list our tasks for the day. (Friday's was simply called "Friday 30 april 2010" - that's typical). It is totally your choice as to what you list. Then, it's best for you to check-in there throughout the day and mark off what you've accomplaished. Most of us learn that we tend to have better days when we check-in a few times that day. When you skip it, you tend to get lazy and not work as much.
We have a chatbox (look at the menu on top of the page). There are a few people in there most of the day. We cheer each other on in there and keep each other company while we do our daily duties. It feels good to have someone congratulate you in the chatbox when you finish a task.
Good luck - we're all here to support each other!
"A year from now, you may wish you had started today." - Karen Lamb
"Fall down seven times, stand up eight." - Japanese proverb
Thank you
Will give this a shot. Not to sound like a whiner but what do I do when I can't get started?
Hi Just Joined
Hi just joined and am at work checking email, when received a approved notice from PA. I am so excited. I had really been pushing myself today not to slack off today at work because I spent the entire day yesterday slacking off school and work. I am an extremely chronic procrastinator I kid you not.
I am about to fail two classes in school in about a week. I am a senior in college but doesn't seem like I will ever graduate because can't ever seem to keep it together for the semester without procrastinating. Want to go to graduate school but feeling discouraged because of my lack of discipline in undergrad.
Have not done laundry in maybe to months keep buying clothes at a discounted store I work at. When my place gets overwhelming to me I stay at a friends. I haven't prepared a meal and my small one room in months (partially because it is not conducive to cooking or organized well) in the mist of everything I have taken up running and am suppose to do a 10k in about two weeks that I am not ready or trained for.
Do I qualify?
Pheewwww!!!!! But I am really excited about PA, woohoo!!!!
Yes, you qualify, stefinle
SO many of us have exactly the same stories.
Failing in school, doing poorly in jobs, being unable to keep our apartments clean or keep up with laundry. It's a crippling problem. I've found that this website helps. It's a slow recovery process, getting life back on track, but it's better than not doing anything!
As far as getting started, the thing that has helped me the most is the check-in support in the chatroom. Going in there and doing micro-bursts with other people all together makes it easier to tackle everything that needs to be done. Give it a try!
Welcome to the group :)
piet
Welcome stefinle!
Hope this website helps!
Welcome stef!
You're definitely in the right place lol! hugs!
Jo
"Bless the present. Trust yourself. Expect the best." --Steve Nobel
oops dupe!
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Just joined
Actually I joined last week but just got around to introducing myself.
I really am ready to make a change. Earlier in the year I went to a psychiatrist/therapist hoping to find an answer in pill form. All I got was an antidepressant that did a great job masking my guilt/anxiety but did nothing at all to help me “do things”. Plus it was hell to get off of.
I have dug a really deep hole with my business & finances both personal and business.
Any suggestions on where to start? This site is really overwhelming.
Welcome Jpiz!
"The world is my classroom, each day is a new lesson, and every person I meet is my teacher" - Craig Harper
hi jpiz
i really hope and pray you find recovery here. i have. many others have. people here are indeed living a life in recovery from compulsive procrastination, just like so many in AA are living a life in recovery from alcohol.
i dont have any specific suggestions. But i do have some perspectives from my point of view that might help you. many, many people come here in your situation. Most never come back. the people who do come back recover. Please come back
Many people here tend to view their own situation as hopeless, when in fact it might not be that bad. I dont know your situation, but if it's like other people here it *feels* hopeless but in fact there are options. People have kept their jobs and businesses and relationships by working here.
What works for people here is day to day management of the procrastination addiction.
Thus, the most popular tools here are the Daily Check-ins at http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/forum/6 (you can see today's on the right sidebar), and chat at http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/chatbox
Use the tools however they work for you. Check-in is the more permanent, concrete to do list - accountability place to start your day and refer back to and keep yourself on goal.
The chat is an ongoing motivational tool to help you stick to your check in. It's also a place to "talk yourself thru things." And, while working, ppl can hear chat beeps going off. we call that "beeps of solidarity" because it's comforting to know that we're all in this together, that people are in chat working thru their issues just like you, even if you're not reading the actual posts.
hth & welcome!
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the touch of the master's hand: http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/1898#comment-27748
"fall down seven times, get up eight" - japanese proverb
Thank you
I just signed up. Hopefully, I can contribute some. I know I have already been helped today, by what I've read in the last five minutes.
Thank you.
mattov
Los Angeles, Ca.
Saturday, October 10, 2009 Hello from a New Member
Glad to have found this site and am looking forward to improvement, especially given tools like the Check-Ins!
A very impressive message.
A very impressive message.

One thing I find, related
One thing I find, related to this, is that I am best when receiving feedback on a task as I do it. So "open the file" doesn't always work when I'm alone. I might start writing something then lose confidence, and give up on it.
But if I organise a meeting around something, that often helps me move along, because I get feedback immediately on my idea and I understand if what I'm doing is going to please or impress someone (in which case I'll generally be a lot more willing to get on with it once alone).
Being motivated only by pleasing or impressing other people is probably a terrible thing, but I guess it at least helps to know that's how it works.
I don't often find it easy to intuit what will please or impress people, and I think that's one thing that's close to the root of my procrastination problem. If you're frightened that you're going to receive unexpected negative feedback, which you aren't ready to respond to, it makes it a *lot* harder to start on something.
ikwym projoy
from knowing the other ppl in this fellowship, we all are very concerned with how well we do, and some very concerned about how well other ppl think we do.
I have experienced the motivation that comes from other ppl believing in what i'm doing. there may be some ppl who live very public lives that can conduct their lives by that motivation.
For me, there's way too much "just me" tasks that no one else cares about--and that includes the boring and maintenance tasks that are part of the overall project that ppl care about--that i have to somehow find motivation to do.
And i have found that strength here, to find the motivation all by my self. well, with the help of my Higher Power.
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the touch of the master's hand: http://procrastinators-anonymous.org/node/1898#comment-27748
"fall down seven times, get up eight" - japanese proverb
Mark Forster's "I'll just get the file out" technique
This reminds me very much of Mark Forster's (author of "Do it tomorrow" & "Get everything done & still have time to play") "I’ll just get the file out" technique. The idea is that when you are procrastinating over something, you just tell yourself that you'll "just get the file out" or whatever, with no promises to do anything else with the file, just that you'll get it out and put it on your desk.
It actually works pretty well, when I remember to do it (which is unfortunately not that often!), as you often end up at least looking at the contents of the file and often actually get the task done or at least properly started. The only trouble is that unless I actually do finish the task, occasionally my forgetfullness & disorganisation get in the way and the file gets lost in the pile of crap on my desk and I forget I put it there... but then that kind of thing happens anyway, regardless of whether I'm using the "I'll just get the file out" technique!
Obviously the "file" could be anything; if you are procrastinating over cleaning, it could be getting the cleaning equipment out, if it's making dinner it could be looking in the fridge to see what you've got, and so on.
For really chronic procrastinators (myself included!) this technique alone won't be enough to transform you into a non-procrastinator, but it's a very good start and perhaps, if you can get into the habit of using it regularly (easier said than done, of course), it might break the cycle of procrastinating behaviour. I think the trick is to move your habitual patterns of behaviour from inaction to action. The only snag is that changing the habits of a lifetime is not an easy task!
More info on "get the file out"
I just found more info about this on Mark Forster's website: http://www.markforster.net/get-the-file-out/
I think, perhaps, that he didn't have chronic procrastinators in mind when he wrote the "Conquer Procrastination for Ever" tagline, though!
very wise message from movingalong
Hi moving - this message is so wise, I think I will move it somewhere and make it sticky so newcomers can see it. Thanks for posting it.
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Procrastination is the grave in which opportunity is buried.
motivation follows action
Thank you so much for your message. This makes so much sense - "motivation follows action". I'm also so relieved that someone understands how I feel. Sometimes I think I must be crazy or something - my family doesn't understand at all why I can't "just do it".
I'll try your suggestion of taking some very small action. That sounds like something I can do.
Again, thank you so much!!!!
motivation follows action
I feel exactly like you described, I am so glad you posted it, because it validates that I am not crazy and not alone....Gina
"Motivation follows
"Motivation follows action"- It is true, I really like this!
In recovery,
Elina
just joined
i m very xited about joining p.a.
hope it will help me to recover from this killer habit.i m addicted to procrastination to the extent that it has ruined my life.i ve nothing left in my life except regrets.
no motiational books or articles vve been able to help me.yeah of course they do invogorates me 4 a while but soo it will while away.i m not able 2 resist d temptation f anythng tempting,tv serials,movies,internet anything.and no matr how guilty i feel afterwards i still do these things.and such worthless thngs though give momentary pleasure ,taake away all my energy with only guilt left with me..
i kno m doing wrong , and that these thngs ve spoiled my life but i still do it.
once a topper in 10th grade,i ve bcom a worthless person now.i ve got nothin now in the name of career,physical attributes,health... .my parents are unhappy with me.
i am not able to cope with my worthlessness nor m i able to cure it.
and i ve 1 last chance to prove myself... n i kno i can do dat only if i stop procrastinting.i ve to clear MEDICAL ENTRANCE TEST 2011 otherwise i will lose all my respect at home forever. this will be my 3rd and last attempt.
and i hope p.a. members will help and support me in accomplishing my lifetime's mission.
This is gold
This is gold. I was literally just on my coutch for about 3 hours and read this and then began organising my desk and closets. Works quite well.